Episode 3: Strength Beyond the Gym ✊🏽
SHOW NOTES
What does strength look like when the body you have today can’t do what the body you remember could?
In this episode of Anything Could Happen, Diana Shinde sits down with Allison Bailey, a NASM Certified Personal Trainer and Sports Performance Coach with 17 years of experience, for a conversation about fitness, motherhood, resilience, autoimmune disease, body image, aging, and learning to work with your body instead of against it.
Allison shares how becoming a teen mother helped shape her career, why she loves working with athletes, and what happened when years of being strong and physically fit were suddenly interrupted by debilitating fatigue, joint pain, and autoimmune symptoms.
Her experience ultimately changed her definition of fitness. Strength became less about pushing harder and more about adapting, giving herself grace, and appreciating what her body could still do.
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IN THIS EPISODE
Diana and Allison explore:
💪🏽 How becoming a teen mother helped launch Allison’s career in fitness
💪🏽 Why fitness should be enjoyable—and why there is no single “right” way to exercise
💪🏽 The mental demands placed on athletes and the importance of recovery
💪🏽 Why an athlete’s identity needs to extend beyond their sport
💪🏽 Starting small when exercise feels overwhelming
💪🏽 Allison’s experience with autoimmune disease and debilitating fatigue
💪🏽 Learning to exercise in a different season of life
💪🏽 Why comparison can undermine both confidence and well-being
💪🏽 Training clients according to personality, ability, and motivation
💪🏽 Staying active during major life changes
💪🏽 Fitness, mobility, and aging
💪🏽 Bodybuilding, restrictive eating, and finding moderation
💪🏽 Social media, body image, and unrealistic standards
💪🏽 Teaching girls to appreciate what their bodies can do, not simply how they look
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STRENGTH IN A DIFFERENT SEASON
After years of training and feeling physically strong, Allison began experiencing severe fatigue, joint pain, and other symptoms that eventually led to multiple autoimmune-related diagnoses.
At one point, even walking could leave her exhausted.
The physical change also affected her mentally. Allison remembers thinking, What is happening to me? This is not me.
Eventually, something shifted:
“This is me, just in a different season of life.”
Instead of continually fighting against the body she used to have, Allison began asking what her body needed now. That meant scaling back, adjusting her workouts, giving herself more grace, and letting go of comparisons with people she saw online.
Her goal remained fitness—but the definition of fitness changed.
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START WHERE YOU ARE
One of Allison’s simplest pieces of advice is also one of the most practical:
Start small.
Walk. Jog. Swim. Hike. Find a friend. Try something different.
Fitness does not have to begin with an intense workout or a dramatic transformation. Allison encourages clients to find movement they enjoy and build from there.
When life becomes especially demanding, even 30 minutes can be enough.
The goal is not perfection. It is finding a way to continue.
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FITNESS, AGING, AND MOBILITY
Some of the clients who have impressed Allison most have been in their 70s, 80s, and even 90s.
Seeing older adults continue to lift weights and remain active reminds her that fitness is about far more than appearance. Maintaining strength and mobility can help people continue participating in their own lives.
For Diana, seeing older women exercising carries a powerful message:
“I’m committed to life.”
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TRAINING THE PERSON, NOT JUST THE BODY
After 17 years in fitness, Allison has learned that different people need different approaches.
Some clients respond to humor and fun. Others thrive with a faster pace and more direct challenge. Athletes may need to be reminded to rest, while someone hesitant about exercise may need encouragement simply to begin.
Allison describes her approach simply:
“I try to find what makes them tick.”
The workout matters—but so does understanding the person doing it.
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BODY IMAGE AND COMPARISON
The conversation also turns toward social media, body image, restrictive eating, and the pressure—particularly on young women—to make their bodies conform to changing beauty standards.
When Allison talks with her teenage daughter about body image, her message is clear:
“God made you perfectly. Your body is how you were made, and there’s no need to change how you look.”
Instead of constantly comparing our bodies with someone else’s, Allison encourages people to appreciate what their bodies allow them to experience and accomplish.
As she puts it:
“Comparison is the thief of joy.”
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ABOUT ALLISON BAILEY
Allison Bailey is a NASM Certified Personal Trainer and Sports Performance Coach with 17 years of experience.
Her background includes personal training, bodybuilding, TRX training, strength and conditioning, speed and performance training, and working with athletes and clients across a wide range of ages and fitness levels.
A former soccer player and mother of four, Allison also brings her personal experience living with autoimmune illness to her work. Her coaching combines compassion, adaptability, humor, and the willingness to push clients toward goals they may not yet realize they can achieve.
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CONNECT WITH ALLISON
Instagram: @allib1422
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ABOUT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN
Anything Could Happen explores conversations about courage, belonging, identity, health, change, and becoming.
Host Diana Shinde talks with coaches, athletes, experts, thinkers, and everyday people about the experiences and turning points that shape who we become.
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QUESTION FOR YOU
What does strength look like in the season of life you are in right now?
Has your definition of fitness changed as you’ve gotten older, become a parent, experienced illness or injury, or simply learned to listen to your body differently?
Tell us in the comments—and share this episode with someone who might need the reminder that doing what you can today still counts.
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TRANSCRIPT
Strength Beyond the Gym with Allison Bailey
DIANA: Welcome to the Anything Could Happen podcast. Today, I am joined by Allison Bailey, who is a NASM Certified Personal Trainer with 17 years of experience and a Sports Performance Coach.
Allison, it is so good to have you.
ALLISON: Thank you for having me. I’m so excited to be here.
DIANA: Oh, this will be fun. I know—I work with you! So tell me, how did you get started in personal training?
ALLISON: I’ve always been an athlete, and I love training. I love people.
Initially, I started because I needed a career. I was a teen mom, and I needed to start putting a career together and be able to afford life for me and my child. That’s kind of why I got into it.
Also, my dad did a lot of training. He was a big reason I got into it as well.
DIANA: Being a teen mom is a lot of responsibility at an early age. At the same time, you’re picking up your career and building yourself up. What challenges did you experience?
ALLISON: Oh my gosh. Quite a few.
I had a really tough childhood. I get a little emotional about that.
I went through a lot as a kid, and all I knew was that I wanted to be the best mom and be able to provide for her.
I did what I needed to do. I worked nonstop. I started at a small club, and it kind of blew up from there. I just kept going with it.
DIANA: When it started to take off, what did you find inspiring about your clients? What kept you going? What really motivates you?
ALLISON: I loved seeing the progress. I loved seeing their confidence boosted. That brought me a lot of joy.
That was a big part of why I started. I knew how to get into shape, and I knew how it made me feel, so I knew it could do the same for others.
I loved seeing them progress. I loved seeing their confidence and self-esteem boosted. It really brought me joy.
DIANA: I meet a lot of people who say, “I hate exercise.” What would you say to the person who feels like they hate exercise?
ALLISON: Make it fun.
Maybe find a partner. Get a friend. Start doing something small and try different things.
With fitness, there isn’t just one area. There are so many different ways you can be healthy. Go running. Go hiking. Go swimming.
There are so many options out there. You might not find it fun at first, but just try it. You may end up liking it.
DIANA: I had a turning point like that with Uday. We would go to this gym that was part of our apartment complex, and he was into bodybuilding, so he actually loved the gym.
I was like, “Oh my God. The gym.”
But I would go with him because, as you said, get a partner. At first, I could only do about 20 minutes.
Slowly, over time, you find something that appeals to you—whether it’s the way you feel, the transformation, the way it starts to become fun, or simply having that companion.
It almost makes you glow. And then it builds.
ALLISON: Yeah. That’s a beautiful way to start. Just have fun with it.
I think when you take it too seriously, you can end up not liking it.
Have fun with it and try different things to stay healthy and get fit.
DIANA: When you work with athletes, their mindset can be very different from someone who isn’t trying to compete professionally or even in high school.
When you work with an athlete, what is the goal? How is that different?
ALLISON: I’ve worked with all kinds of people and different age ranges, but with athletes specifically, a lot of it is mental.
They really push themselves and work really hard. Trying to keep them mentally stable is one of the biggest things for me because you can burn out really fast.
I really encourage them to take those rest days seriously and take those recovery days seriously.
For me, that’s one of the biggest things I’ve seen with athletes—the mental side.
DIANA: Sometimes your life becomes your sport. How do you cultivate the whole person?
At some point, either your career ends or you choose to stop playing. How does a person maintain the parts they love while still building themselves around other things?
ALLISON: That’s a good question.
Personally, I played soccer. I could have gone pro, but then I had Harmony, and my whole trajectory in life changed.
I did it for me and her.
It was a hard transition because I missed soccer at the time, but I knew there was more in life for me than putting my identity into just that sport.
My outlook had to change. My identity wasn’t just sports.
That’s what I would focus on: You’re more than your sport or being an athlete.
DIANA: I think that’s very sweet, being a mother myself.
Your kids do, in a way, become your everything. But as a parent, you also start to realize that you have to have something outside of your children.
You keep nurturing your relationship with your spouse and your relationships with all the other people in your ecosystem while building them up.
It’s a fun journey.
ALLISON: It is.
DIANA: Who has inspired or mentored you? What keeps you going and keeps you passionate?
ALLISON: Harmony, my 17-year-old, inspires me.
I was pregnant with her at 17. To see her thriving and doing what she loves is so inspiring because I knew what my life was like at that age.
I’m just so blessed to see her doing what she loves.
I’ve also had a lot of good mentors. There was one in particular who really boosted my career by allowing me to be at her gym. That’s where I got started with bodybuilding, boot camp, and speed, strength, and conditioning.
She encouraged me to find what I really liked most.
I love personal training, don’t get me wrong, but I really love working with athletes.
I love seeing them progress—like Shahina. That’s my girl!
I love seeing their focus and how hard they work. Seeing athletes progress and achieve their goals really drives me.
DIANA: I love that your daughter is actually your inspiration.
Children, in many ways, mentor us because we learn as they grow. They’re showing us the way while we show them the way.
So, when you meet someone who wants to get off the couch but has resistance—they’re hesitant to start—how would you invite that person into fitness and physical health?
ALLISON: I think it depends on the person.
Find what they like. Have good conversations while taking those baby steps and really encourage them.
Everybody loves compliments, right?
DIANA: Oh, yeah.
ALLISON: I’m going to give all the compliments because I know what it does. It really helps a person feel better about what they’re doing.
Set baby goals.
Maybe it’s walking or jogging. Set different goals depending on where that person is in their fitness journey.
DIANA: We just experienced that with my mom. She’s 80 and has had two hip replacement surgeries.
The last time I saw her, I found out she really hadn’t been walking all year. My sister, brother, and I encouraged her: “Mom, just take a few steps.”
She started getting excited and messaging us. Every day, she was doing 20 minutes, then 30 minutes.
Then my aunt called me and said, “Your mom said she walked 40 minutes!”
She had been building up.
And it’s not just our bodies. It impacts our minds. She said cognitively she felt more clarity. She felt happier and more alert. Physically, she felt stronger.
Now, you’ve been through a lot with autoimmune disease.
One of the things I find phenomenal about you is that despite that challenge, you continue to maintain your health, keep going, and stay positive and strong.
Would you share what happened and how you’ve worked through it?
ALLISON: It started about eight years ago.
I started not feeling good. Mind you, I had been in fitness for years. I’d always worked out and always been in shape.
All of a sudden, I started feeling really off. I was fatigued. I could barely work out without feeling like my body was in so much pain. My joints were aching.
It was really debilitating.
I went in and had blood work done, and they told me I had a positive ANA—an antinuclear antibody.
DIANA: What does that mean?
ALLISON: It’s usually a sign of some form of autoimmune issue.
They sent me to a rheumatologist. The rheumatologist was like, “Oh, you’re young. You’re healthy. Nothing’s wrong.”
And I’m like, “No. I can tell you something is definitely wrong. I don’t feel like myself. I can’t work out.”
He said maybe it was rheumatoid arthritis. That was the first diagnosis.
It progressively got worse. I went back and said, “The medicine isn’t working. I don’t know what else is going on, but I’m having more symptoms.”
Then he diagnosed me with palindromic rheumatism.
I was getting all these different diagnoses and all this medication. I wanted to find out what was actually happening.
A few months later, I went back and asked if I should go to Cleveland Clinic to have them test me and see if there was something else he was missing.
He said, “I’m not missing anything. Now I think it’s lupus as well.”
I thought, Okay. What else is going on with my body?
I tried all the things. I went gluten-free.
Even walking could make me so physically tired.
I kept trying to figure out different ways to help myself. I finally found a naturopath, and she started me on superfoods and different things for my gut.
I noticed a really big change when I started working on my gut health.
I won’t say all of my symptoms have gone away because they’re still there. I just work around them.
I don’t know if I’ll ever get rid of the autoimmune disease for good, but I’ve learned to manage it.
Some days, it’s extremely hard just to get out of bed. I do what I can. I get up and take it slowly. Maybe the next day I’m able to perform a little better.
I’m not 100 percent at my peak, but I’m okay.
This is where I’m at in life, and I’m going to do what I can to still be healthy and stay fit because I know it’s going to benefit me and my kids.
DIANA: And you’re a mom of four!
It sounds like your energy has come back. From feeling like you could barely walk to taking care of your health and being restored energetically.
You’re not 100 percent, but would you say you feel much better than you did?
ALLISON: Yes.
It took a toll on me mentally.
I felt like, What’s happening to me? This is not me.
I fought that for the longest time.
Then I thought, This is me, just in a different season of life.
How can I make changes that accommodate my lifestyle right now?
A lot of that was scaling back and trying to have a lot more grace on my body.
I’m generally a very tough person. I like to go hard. And my body’s like, “Nope. Not today.”
I have to be okay with that.
Looking at social media can also lead to comparisons: Why can’t I do that?
I had to stop comparing myself to other people on the Internet and really focus on myself and what I could do to manage my health.
It’s been a lot better since I changed that mindset—focusing on myself instead of where everybody else is in their fitness.
DIANA: And you’re so physically fit. Can I just say that?
ALLISON: Thank you.
DIANA: Social media is such an interesting phenomenon because it creates comparison.
We see somebody and think, I should be like that. Why am I not like that? I used to be like that.
But we don’t know that person’s story. We’re seeing a polished photo.
That dialogue doesn’t actually empower a person.
ALLISON: Always remember that we are all on different paths in life.
We really can’t compare our level of fitness to anyone else. We all deal with different challenges and struggles, and we deal with them differently.
Give yourself grace for where you’re at in life.
Do what you can and be proud of that.
Even if you can just walk, be proud of that. Some people still struggle with that.
Even if it’s something small, be proud.
DIANA: There’s a teaching story about a man who didn’t have shoes and was upset about it until he came across a man without feet. Then he became grateful: I have feet.
Our circumstances change.
I love your analogy of seasons because each season has its own colors and weather. It isn’t constant, which is part of the blessing.
Hopefully, we can weather it well and then enjoy whatever is next.
ALLISON: Yes. You have to be patient.
Enjoy the season of life you’re in.
Don’t get so stressed about trying to be somebody else. Just be yourself.
DIANA: What about your own daughters? Do you give Harmony advice about social media and how to manage it?
ALLISON: She’s pretty good about not getting too sucked in.
I remind her to focus on herself and what she’s doing. She has a great mindset. She’s just all-around awesome.
She makes me so proud.
DIANA: What are some of your favorite client stories—people you’ve trained who have really impressed you?
ALLISON: I’ve trained 70-, 80-, and 90-year-old people, and those are the ones who have really impressed me.
I see the other side, where many people at those ages aren’t doing anything.
I’ve had older clients who are still lifting, and it just blows my mind.
Even at my age, I sometimes feel tired or not as strong. To see them still moving and being active is amazing.
I love that.
DIANA: I feel the same way when I see older women at the gym.
I’m like, “I want to be her.”
She is my inspiration because it says something about the person.
To me, it says, “I’m committed to life.”
Whatever I have of this life, I’m going to make it count.
ALLISON: It’s so worth it because you don’t want to be bedbound. You don’t want to have to rely on so many people.
Being able to stay mobile makes such a difference.
DIANA: You’ve trained me, and you’ve also trained my daughter, Shahina.
We have very different personalities.
When I work with you, I’m resistant to pushing myself. I give you a hard time: “Oh, more?”
And Shahina is my foil—the complete opposite. She’s like, “Tell me what to do. Bring it.”
With her, my concern is sometimes making sure she doesn’t push herself too hard so she can keep going.
How do you work with those different personality types?
ALLISON: I try to find what makes them tick.
I focus on who the client is and what motivates them.
You love to laugh. You love to have fun. So I’m like, “Let’s make this fun.”
That gets you going.
Shahina is a little more serious, so I’ll be a little more fast-paced with her and more aggressive in a way that pushes her.
It depends on who I’m working with.
Some people want a more serious time, and some people like to have fun with it. Both are totally okay.
I try to learn that about my clients and make the time enjoyable and worthwhile instead of miserable.
I find common interests, see how hard they want to be pushed, and focus on those things.
DIANA: That sounds like the psychology of sport.
ALLISON: I’ve been doing this so long. I’ve worked with so many people with different attitudes and different ways of approaching fitness.
I’ve learned to find how my clients respond to the way we interact.
DIANA: When somebody feels like giving up, how do you give them hope to hang on?
ALLISON: You’ve come this far. Why should we stop?
I love when clients are honest with me about those things because I can remind them: You’ve put in all this work.
Why do you want to stop now?
You’ve made progress. You feel good. You’re feeling more confident. You’re able to do more in life.
Why quit?
If you’re getting burned out or it isn’t interesting anymore, let’s find a different avenue of working out. Change things up. Try something different.
DIANA: Sometimes someone has a big life change—a move or a job change—and their environment changes dramatically.
That can disrupt all their routines.
How do you recalibrate and get back into the groove?
ALLISON: I’m actually in the middle of moving right now.
I try to find little times throughout the day and block out that time to do a little bit here and there.
If I can only do 30 minutes, that’s fine.
I accept that because I know there are a lot of changes happening for me right now, but I still want to keep progressing and stay fit.
It might not be the full hour or hour and a half that I would normally work out, but 30 minutes is still sufficient.
You can get a lot done in 30 minutes.
DIANA: Let’s talk about goals.
Sometimes we surpass a goal. Sometimes we hit exactly what we aimed for. Other times we follow the steps but still underperform.
How would you coach someone through those experiences?
ALLISON: I would look at changing what they’re doing.
Maybe what they’re doing wasn’t working if they didn’t meet the goal. Or maybe make the goal a little easier to accomplish.
If they’re completely surpassing the goal, make it harder.
DIANA: What would you like viewers and listeners to know about you?
If they were meeting you for the first time, what would the experience of working with you be like?
ALLISON: I’m a very open person.
I have compassion for people at any fitness level, and I want them to know that they can come to me at any stage.
It doesn’t matter. I’m not going to judge you.
I want to help you reach a goal. I want to help make sure you’re still healthy and mobile.
Know that I’m going to be an open door for you.
Don’t feel ashamed or scared of where you’re at because I’ll be right by your side to help you push through and accomplish your goals.
DIANA: Before we wrap up, is there anything else you’d like to unpack or share?
ALLISON: If you’re struggling with autoimmune disease and trying to figure out the next step, I think I can help with that—figuring out different ways to manage and still work out, even if it’s just little bits here and there.
I’ve had so many different struggles with autoimmune disease, and I’ll be very compassionate about wherever you’re at and whatever you’re struggling with.
DIANA: I think it’s invaluable when you’ve had that experience yourself because you know what it’s like for another person.
You can adjust according to their needs and situation, and you can inspire them because you’ve gone through it too.
There was that point when the doctor was saying nothing was wrong, but you knew something was wrong.
ALLISON: Yes.
I’ll make sure your feelings feel valid because I know what it was like not to have anybody hear me or understand what I was going through.
That was a really big struggle.
Nobody really understood how painful and hard it was for me—not just physically, but mentally.
I can relate through autoimmune issues.
And as a mom, I’m juggling a lot of plates here!
I try to do it with compassion and grace.
Know that the person you’re going to get is somebody compassionate—but also somebody who’s going to be very pushy and want you to reach your goals!
We’ll have fun, but I also want to make sure I’m pushing you to accomplish your goals.
DIANA: She did that with me in the gym!
We started squatting with about 30 pounds, then went to 40, and I think we went up to 60.
I had no idea I could do that.
ALLISON: But you did it!
DIANA: I did!
Shahina and I have also gotten to work out with you at the same time, and it was a lot of fun.
Do you work with families or couples?
ALLISON: Sometimes, yes.
I’m kind of a do-it-all type of person.
I have experience with all ages, and I’ve done so much—from bodybuilding and TRX training to strength and conditioning, speed, and performance.
I have a wide range of experience.
I’d love to train families, athletes—just anybody.
DIANA: I want to touch on bodybuilding because diet, along with strength training, becomes critically important.
ALLISON: Yes, and you have to be careful with that.
I’ve noticed it’s a huge craze for young people to want to get into bodybuilding.
It’s awesome. You have to be disciplined, determined, and focused.
But don’t take your whole life and give it over to bodybuilding.
Constantly being on a strict diet can do something to you.
When your body is under that immense amount of stress and you’re on such a strict diet, it can affect you physically and mentally as well.
DIANA: How would you ease someone out of that when they’re no longer in competition and help them return to a less restrictive diet?
ALLISON: I would change things slowly because they’ve been very strict for a long time.
Sometimes it takes a really long time to get to peak performance.
Don’t go crazy and go straight to junk food. Keep eating in moderation and enjoy yourself.
Have your sweets here and there. Just don’t be so hard on yourself and so strict.
You deserve a little bit of a break instead of constantly stressing: What am I going to eat? What do I have to eat? How much do I have to eat?
That can really affect you mentally.
DIANA: I saw that when I worked as a weight-loss coach.
It blew my mind how much some people thought about food in a way that was no longer pleasant.
If I think about eating a hot dog, I get happy!
But someone who has struggled with weight or has been extremely restrictive may have the pleasure impulse followed by this almost tortured experience around the food.
It’s not easy for them anymore.
ALLISON: I’ve had some experience with that.
When I was younger, I was very strict about what I ate. I was also a twig. I wouldn’t eat that much and tried to make sure I was on a strict diet.
I felt like that affected both my body and my mentality.
As I’ve gotten older, I eat to give my body nutrients—to give it enough so I can work out, keep up with my four children, and still have enough energy at the end of the day for my husband.
I eat very well, but not to the point that I’m restricting myself.
I still enjoy sweets here and there.
I don’t want eating something out of the ordinary or having some junk food to make me think, Oh my gosh. I just messed up my whole diet.
Don’t let those things discourage you.
You can still be fit and in shape and have your snacks here and there.
DIANA: May we touch on body image?
We’ve danced around it when talking about social media because when we see other people, we compare ourselves with them.
When we’re talking about fitness and health, body image becomes a big issue.
Sometimes we create an image to aspire toward that isn’t necessarily based in health.
It may be a certain weight or look—not because it represents wellness, but because someone told us that was the “right” weight or because someone else looks that way.
What are your thoughts about body image, especially for women, but also for men?
ALLISON: If I were talking to Harmony, my 17-year-old—we’ve had a few of these talks—my message is always:
God made you perfectly. Your body is how you were made, and there’s no need to change how you look.
There’s no need to try to make your body look like somebody else’s.
There are women who have surgeries and want to change their bodies, and then young children see that and want to obtain that look.
Sometimes the only way to obtain it is through surgery.
I want her to know: You were made beautifully.
That’s your body. Be happy that it allows you to work out. Be proud that you can move and enjoy sports or whatever it may be.
DIANA: I love that advice, especially for girls today.
We didn’t have social media in the same way growing up.
Today you have the World Wide Web and social media, and you’re comparing yourself within this enormous pool—with filters on top of it.
It’s distorted.
Someone may think, I want this surgery because that’s trending.
It might be the lips, the butt—whatever part of the body is trending at the moment.
Learning to love and embrace yourself as you are means seeing yourself as whole, complete, and enough.
And I especially like your additional focus: not only you are beautiful, but look what you can do.
ALLISON: Yes.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
We can’t do that to ourselves.
We have to give ourselves grace and be really proud of being able to do what we can at any stage of life.
DIANA: Absolutely. I love it.
If you want to connect with Allison—and I hope you do—I hope you train with her because she’s phenomenal.
I’ll share her Instagram account in the description box of the YouTube video, in the show notes, and with the Spotify write-up.
I hope you connect with her because, as I said, she will pump you up. She’ll make you feel good.
She’s very loving and kind.
Shahina says she has a “mom vibe.”
What does that mean?
It means she’s an extremely caring person who can work with someone at any age and stage of life with both nurturance and power.
Mothers are powerful, and she’s powerful.
She will bring the best out of you.
Thank you so much.
ALLISON: Thank you!
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